@sammyjankis @ch3vy @gilmeriken Sammy, I get your point. But when we go to the extremes, don't we tend to compromise our individuality? Conformity in the extreme is debasing in the extreme or tends to be. Here's a funny secret: My own grandpa was once a leftist. Many of my family were actual leftists who carried the manifesto around. But I still love them. My grandpa was actually my hero. He saved me by acting as a father to me.