@DLandryEsq58 @TheCure007 or just bluff and hope they are hold A, K with nothing suited....skill is def a huge part but so is the game....the part that kills me is when i lose a great fking hand, like two high pair to someone that flopped some shit off holding a 4, 6 and hits straight on the river....never should have even called to see the cards....thats why it is called gambling...but those bad beats hurt worse....then again all beats are bad and there is no rule that says you can play your 2. 3 off suit....blah blah blah....