@Shibby_Boss @jnados1 Because Elliot Associates has 2 seats at board of directors, they are considered insiders, and their 4.122M common shares are listed under insider ownership rather than institutional ownership..that is why you won't find their 4.122 M shares on fintel. Elliot Associates also has series G preferred shares that is equivalent to 5.56M common shares. They also have series E preferred shares, not sure how many common shares it is equivalent to. Elliot Management, which is an affiliate of Elliot Associates, has 833k common shares, and those are considered institutional ownership., and you will see that on fintel. Google CRMD institutional ownership and select the one under Whale Wisdom ...they include all ownerships,including hedge funds.