@Nicoderm @OGChuckD @Jagid I'm trying to get a Cherokee trailhawk 2019 or newer, don't care about the color, but trying to avoid the blue I guess. I had been looking at suburus but I want to get up a lot higher because my neighborhood floods pretty bad and easily. And I'll put the 4wd to use in some other situations and it's still kind of a family car.